I think (pun intended) THINK is a given before WORK

@Lea

Not stereotyping, just generalizing. There are always exceptions. I’m talking about my perceived majority.

@Sugarenia

First, thank you for giving me the chance to express an opinion about this matter. I think your post was powerful and refreshing. And propably enjoyable for the girls that share the same views with you. But not for me. I feel we’re following “icons” that cause us to be disoriented. It’s not a matter of sex. That’s REALLY REALLY not the matter.
It’s a matter of free markets and equal opportunity. It’s business. And it’s strategy and then, tactics. Society is evolving. You have to make things happen or you’ll watch things happen or you will wonder “What did just happened?”.

“Work, work, work” ? No, no, no. A misconception. THINK, THINK, THINK I would say. And think fast. Then, ACT.

It’s not an ego play. It’s a business play.

Let me show another side of this reality.
Yes, the “boob factor” changes it all. Each time you talk we pause as long as you are a real geek and remain a real woman. We love you, we envy you, we want you to be around us all the time.

@HitMan

That’s EXACTLY my point. Our social structure makes it so much easier for good-looking women, which efficiently shatters the ambitions of the rest of us.

Glad that I made you drop the lurker status

Regardless your opinion, I’m still quite firm on what I said on sexual harassment. Especially if the offender is someone above you, hierarchy-wise. Reporting and leaving is the only option I see.

I sincerely hope this is not such a frequent case nowadays, though.

To be a more active commenter beyond respect I will say one-two things more.

The “boob factor” that acidsmile was referred to doesn’t exist for me in a way. It’ s complicated. For sure it might exists in lower position and surely not tech related.

Most Geeks are shy, administration staff on the other hand… well.

@acidsmile: Sure, maybe sometimes you have to work twice as hard to get respect, but doesn’t the opposite exist? Because of your “beautiful” gender to be treated better?
Same thing would go for every male based on age. Me, 22 with an urban style versus a 30y old developer/project manager with preppy style. Been there, done that. No respect whatsoever for my work and saying. Thank god I am a good speaker and “transmissibility” in my sayings [ OK, thinking Greek here, you got me i hope ] or else I would have guttered off.

I will end my comment saying that i had the “fortune”;”luck”; to see CVs and even interview girls for our Company from the age of 19. It was a generic position with limited “call-center” responsibilities but something more like a trainee [ paid trainee ] into the world of Internet Services and Graphic design.

What I saw?! You wouldn’t believe. Someone else would have hired the 2nd girl i interviewed with ECDL as her primary skill, dressed as for clubbing, pretty, but with no actual learning thirst. For sure.

All fields need women, not because of the sex beauty, but for the different way of thinking, for the creativity, and so on. I would LOVE to have a geek PHP developer next to me who responds to Maria, Elena, etc. It would make me work better just because of that.

“You got sexually harassed at work? Report the jackass and leave – immediately. If you complain about unemployment and lack of jobs, fine, stay. Your pride goes below your bank balance in your priorities, I guess.”

I disagree with close to 90% of this paragraph. In fact, the only thing I agree with is “report the jackass”. The rest I think you’re dead wrong on.

Now granted, I’m male and you must have a better perspective, but I don’t believe for an instant that a woman who has been sexually harassed at work should have to go through the crap wade that is finding a new job just because her boss/coworker is a jackass. Now, granted, it’ll be difficult to stay, but it’s probably just as difficult to go — I only have experience with the latter.

So fight it, hell yes. Report the guy, yes. But leave immediately? I dunno about that. I think that decision is a *lot* more complicated than you make it out to be.

Sorry, I realize I’m being pedantic about a small off-topic point on your post, but I think it matters. The rest of your post I actually quite agree with. A geek is a geek, regardless of gender.

Distinguishing tech related things (a job, a project, a whatever) is like talking about “male” and “female” restrooms.
No tech is gender oriented or targeted. And if u think of tech or science this way, maybe the most u can get out of technology is your electrically charged …epilator (pun intended)